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brian

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Chit Chat and all that.
« on: 26 March, 2010, 03:10:02 PM »
Hello to anyone out there.

I know it's a bit sad, but sometimes, when I've nothing better to do, I switch on just to see if there are any new postings. ::)

I check who's on and note the names, before looking to see what's new, and often, there's nothing, zilch.

So I got to thinking, dangerous I know at my age, :o but somebody has to stick there head above the parapet and wave a flag.  Any way, this thinking lark, after the initial pain had subsided to a more comfortable level, whilst mid think, I had this thought.

What if we had a Forum heading for member chit chat, where we can address anyone that's on line, and just ask for instance, "What are you up to", or summat as equally daft, mundane, nosy???? Pick your own topic. not necessarily anything to do with our Toylander builds.

What does our esteemed leader and the rest of you think.  And remember, "'ave got feelins yer know".

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Re: Chit Chat and all that.
« Reply #1 on: 26 March, 2010, 07:40:48 PM »
It works on other forums. It encourages people to join in, it can be intimidating for new joiners to talk about their projects when most things have been covered before so having some nonsense chit chat can be an ice breaker. I sometimes think that a forum can also stagnate once all the common questions have been answered and new members are told to use to use the search before asking questions, this probably also discourages use. The downside is that old hands may end up repeating themselves, but its either that or no new posts! Just my thoughts not criticisms.
Anyway Brian what you been upto? :D
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Re: Chit Chat and all that.
« Reply #2 on: 26 March, 2010, 10:03:04 PM »
 :) Evening Brian and Cyclone Mike, not a bad idea this ties in with what people were nattering about a while ago keeping topics on the forum for a while before deleting to free up space ( think it was something like that) so yes it could be a good idea for us to have a natter area.  Well we usually check the forum about this time each week night and sometimes about 6am if we have time. Been to work today getting ready for the engines boiler test tomorrow bit like a large MOT but without the lights, brakes and rolling road but just as stressful. Anyone else got owt to say.
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Re: Chit Chat and all that.
« Reply #3 on: 26 March, 2010, 10:39:26 PM »
Good evening Mike and Mr and Mrs Paul R.Just got back in from visiting my son's house and checking up on my 4 year old grandson.

They have all been away to Spain for ten days and while they were away I did a few electrical jobs for my son and partner and fitted a large pinboard and magnetic whiteboard in Travis' bedroom.  He did not know about this and tonight was to be his first night back at my son's since they came home on Monday because he was with his mum.

It's complicated so don't ask, but anyway, I wanted to see his reaction to his new toys when he went to bed, seemed very favourable and I got a huge kiss and a hug which was all the thanks I needed.

The home situation is a shame, but at least at the moment it is amicable, and my son's new partner makes more of my grandson than his real mum.   

Glad the response to this little venture has been positive so far, time will tell.

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Re: Chit Chat and all that.
« Reply #4 on: 27 March, 2010, 08:17:32 AM »
Brain i understand what its like to see the reaction as i do it with my son every two weeks when he comes to stay although in the odd occasion i don't have something he has a face like thunder so i stopped doing it as he was getting spoiled. so now he has the pleasure of seeing new things Ive made and 8 year olds are not easy in-pressed. while we are chit chatting i also check this forum most nights in the hope that there is some new pictures on here but lately its been a bit blank.
I also think that the search tool on this forum is a bit hit and miss maybe the administrator could have a look.
And one last thing if anyone can get tickets for the semi at wembly Aston villa v Chelsea (in the villa end) i would be more than happy to purchase them!!
enjoy the weekend everyone.
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Re: Chit Chat and all that.
« Reply #5 on: 27 March, 2010, 09:35:15 PM »
Hi Guys,

Well done again Brian, what a good idea!

As for me, I haven't been busy with the (not-so) 'Secret Project' of late, as I couldn't get hold of the 'communal' (Gary's) welder. I'm at the metal fabrication stage (as you might have guessed), so everything stopped over Christmas.
Happily, the welder has re-surfaced (I think it's been on holiday somewhere warm!), so I will have to get started again.

As for the forum, I have been keeping tabs on the progress of everyone, and throwing (spanners) ideas in where I can.

I'm hoping to renew old acquaintances during the summer, and look forward to our next meeting(s) to put faces to names.

Good Luck in all your various projects,
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Re: Chit Chat and all that.
« Reply #6 on: 28 March, 2010, 08:46:07 AM »
  :) Just a quick note we have passed the hydraulic and boiler test so are ready for this years raly season, just need to put more teabags in the camper and charge Toylander batteries. Off to the shed.
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Re: Chit Chat and all that.
« Reply #7 on: 28 March, 2010, 11:24:42 AM »
Hello The Pauls.:D

What boiler pressure do you run at?

When I was working as a hospital engineer, part of my responsibilities were two boilers of 10,000 lbs/hr 150psi oil fired steam at one hospital I was in charge of, and two 6,000 lbs/hr 150 psi coal fired at a second unit.

It allways pays to keep on the right side of the insurance engineer.:D

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Re: Chit Chat and all that.
« Reply #8 on: 28 March, 2010, 09:27:39 PM »
Four on line, are we all watching "Skating on ice"?  :D  Sad innit???

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« Reply #9 on: 28 March, 2010, 10:14:30 PM »
Hi Brian
Hydraulic pressure was tested to 160psi but working pressure is about 100/110psi, tend to stick at about 80psi for running around in but can just manage as low as 30psi if tarmac, flat gound and not too many sticky buns being consumed.
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Re: Chit Chat and all that.
« Reply #10 on: 28 March, 2010, 10:21:17 PM »
messy garage!! can anyone beat this for a message garage??
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« Reply #11 on: 28 March, 2010, 11:37:34 PM »
Hi All
Chit Chat!
Sounds a good idea, much of the discussion falls into this category anyway, and can easily be deleted after a short time scale, so knocking a few of the older pages off the "chat topic" would probably be a good space saver.

This pressure thing is intriguing me, my only involvement is that, if it steams, it's hot enough to make tea!
Is there more to steam than tea?

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« Reply #12 on: 29 March, 2010, 01:07:39 AM »
Definitely Walter, a steam engine gives you maximum torque from the first inrush of steam to the cylinder and does not require a gearbox interposed between engine and drive to increase the torque.

A pressure cooker will cook potatoes et al in a quarter the time of an open saucepan because of the five pound weight of the safety valve.

If your wife has a pan on the cooker and it's lid is bobbling about with the escaping steam, she is wasting your money, the ingredients will not cook any quicker than they would if the heat source were turned down so that only a whisper of steam escaped.

At sea level, water boils to produce steam at 100deg centigrade in an open pan, kettle etc. and it will continue at 100deg no matter how much more heat you apply to the saucepan.  The only way to get the water hotter is to restrict the steam's escape, creating a pressure, so a boiler is a totally enclosed container to restrict the steams escape, this creates a pressure, which in turn increases the steam's latent heat.  The boiler of course must be designed and built to withstand that pressure, and a safety valve fitted, along with several other safety devices, to allow the steam to escape when the design pressure is reached.

Boilers are very dangerous if abused, some of the early train driver's found out that if you screwed down the safety valve, or stuck a brick on it, the pressure would increase in the boiler, and the engine would do more work, go up a hill faster or pull more wagons, unfortunately, for the driver and anyone within fifty yard or so of that boiler, if the increased pressure exceeded the design pressure of the boiler, it would quite likely split it's seams with disastrous consequences, and on several noteable occasions, they did just that.

Every fourteen months, all steam boilers have to have a hydraulic pressure test to twice the working pressure.   This entails filling the boiler with cold water, then attaching a hand pump to the boiler and pumping in additional water thus increasing the pressure within the boiler up to it's test pressure, which in the case of my hospital boilers, with a working pressure of 150psi/sq inch,  was 300lbs/sq inch.  With a full boiler, it takes very little extra water to raise the pressure in the boiler to it's test pressure, so if the boiler should split during the test, it would only have to throw a gallon or two of water out to get back to atmospheric pressure, not 20,000 lbs of steam released into the atmosphere at, without my steam tables I don't no the exact temperature of the steam, but lets say you would have a hard boiled egg in considerably less than four minutes, if you were still alive to eat it.

If anyone thinks the fourteen month interval is a strange interval to set for the test, this is so that a more logical period of twelve months is  allows you to contact the insurance engineer and allow for unseen delays taking you past the fourteen month deadline and causing an illegal operation of the boiler.

Of course, if you were daft enough to try to keep to the deadline of fourteen months, and something went amiss, you would be in deep do dah.

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Re: Chit Chat and all that.
« Reply #13 on: 29 March, 2010, 09:14:02 PM »
Hi Brian
Theres some interesting stuff there, I've never been a steam buff really, electricity is more my thing, but I have a Mamod engine and thats about my limit on the steam front!
Keep warm........more snow coming I understand

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« Reply #14 on: 29 March, 2010, 10:24:33 PM »
 ;) Max your garage isnt messy you can see the floor its a work in progress.  As for the steam bit the simple explanation is coal is put in the fire,heats the water up and off we go.  Bit like brewing tea really. This wet weather may have a lot to answer for soon soaked grassy fields and the like !!  Perhaps I need to look into fitting a snorkel to the Toylander.....
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