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shane

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motor identification
« on: 30 December, 2009, 09:33:31 PM »
Hi all and a happy new year

my name is shane i work as a kitchen fitter. Im going to start making the tractor. I have bought the motors there cim  motors from a pride mobility scooter. The problem is i dont know what kinda controller i need for them or can i do the electronics for it my self ;)

Any help would be great

Thanks in advance
Shane

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Re: motor identification
« Reply #1 on: 30 December, 2009, 11:24:37 PM »
Hi Shane,

If money allows the best solution is a speed controller (which is how they would have been controlled on the scooter), this allows alot more control aswell as a soft start. There are many routes you can take from the obvious (a new controller from RLT), a new 4QD controller, a new 'cheap' Chinese controller to a 'spares or repairs' scooter or bits off ebay.

If you have a search on here someone using a 24v motor direct switched recently is having issues with switch burn out due to the large currents the motor pulls. This will obviously give a very 'jerky' controll. A soft start unit will stop the jerkiness in starting off, but again the motors are still on or off at the end of the day giving you little actual control, although having never tried a direct switched toylander I don't know if this is a big problem.

Have a read around and see what other people used (although I'm sure they'll be some more people popping up + telling you)

As for can you do the electrics yourself..... I don't know .... can you?

At least if you have any questions someone on here will have probally have come across the same problem so just ask!

Have fun building

Tufty

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Re: motor identification
« Reply #2 on: 02 January, 2010, 04:54:24 PM »
Hi all

Thanks for the the advice tufty

Has anyone tried to set up there toylander without the use of a controller. the motors i have has an electronic brake on them would like to use this feature. im not sure how the brake is turned on and of dont want to put power to something i shouldnt :-\

 

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Re: motor identification
« Reply #3 on: 02 January, 2010, 07:11:46 PM »
Hi

No probs,

I don't have brakes on my motors but I assume they are set up the same as most braked motors.
Apply power to release it (the voltage should be marked on them). They basicall act as a handbrake for the motor and hold it in position when there is no power on the motor to hold it. They are on or off ie there is no gentle braking affect.
I'm sure there are plenty of direct switched TL's out there.
« Last Edit: 02 January, 2010, 07:18:16 PM by Tufty »

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Re: motor identification
« Reply #4 on: 03 January, 2010, 03:32:03 PM »
hi all

Was just looking on ebay there seems to be plenty of controllers on it. Would anybody know what type i need there seems to be a lot of different types.

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Re: motor identification
« Reply #5 on: 05 January, 2010, 06:09:47 PM »
Hi all

I Was Just thinking about the accelerator pedal setup was thinking about a sewing machine pedel. you can get variable speed on them. At least the workings inside could be used if nothing else. Has anyone else tried anything like this.

shane 

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Re: motor identification
« Reply #6 on: 06 January, 2010, 12:02:33 AM »
Hi Shane,
You asked about controllers for your motors. I'm not well up on this subject, but if you dont know the type used originally, then it might be best to go for the aftermarket 4QD type controller, as these can be 'Tuned' to your motors specific needs.

There are lots of posts on the forum about this type of controller, and how to set them up. I know they're a little pricey, but so are replacement motors if you fry them!

Have a good read through the posts, and take it from there.

As for the 'Sewing Machine Pedal' idea, it might work, but I would have thought that the 'Plunger Pot' might be over rated (being 240v) for your application, but again, I'm guessing.

I know I've not been much help, but someone will point you in the right direction I'm sure.

Keep Thinking,
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Re: motor identification
« Reply #7 on: 06 January, 2010, 09:58:29 PM »
Hi
Unless I'm mistaken
Toylanders are 24 volt and DC.
Sewing machines are 240 volt and AC
I dont think there's much in common as far as the components are concerned.
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Walter
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