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Pride Scooter Wiring Problem
« on: 11 August, 2009, 12:38:11 AM »
Hi Ted,
OK, I've had a rummage in the shed (what a job), and this is what I've found out.
I'm sorry if this is long winded, but I've tried to explain everything you asked for, and I hope it helps.

Firstly, this is the amount of stuff I had to shift to find my scooter box....


It's in here somewhere...


Nearly There...


The (green) scooter bits box...

Right, Here goes. The head unit I have looks like this....



and this is the reverse side....



I have drawn out the wiring and scanned it into the computer, I just hope that you can see it OK....



But if you can't, just send me a P.M, with an address (or an e-mail), and I'll post it to you.

In this shot, You can see the switches. The 'Power On / Ignition switch is on the left side (phono connector), with the Headlamp switch on the Bottom right (yellow in-line fuse unit attached).
The 'Pot' at the top of the picture is the 'Wig-Wag' Forward / Reverse control. This has Red, Yellow, and Orange wires attached to it.



The Speed 'Pot' is set into the plastic case (top left of unit), and has three terminals which are pointing to the left as you look at the BOTTOM of the pot. They all start off Black, but they then connect (via small spade connectors) as follows....

The one on the bottom of the 'Pot' connects to a Red / Yellow wire, which goes to pin 13 on the White 'Multipin' connection in the top Right of the board....



The one in the Center, connects to a Yellow wire, which goes to the Center terminal on the 'Wig-Wag' pot. and the one at the top, connects to a Green wire, which goes to pin 5 on the White connector.

The 'Wig-Wag' pot is loose, as this mounts lower in the casing. If you set the three terminals to point Right (as viewed from below), the wires are as follows...

The Bottom one is Orange, and goes to pin 3 on the White connector, the Center one (Yellow) goes to the Speed pot, and the top wire is Red and goes to pin 2 on the White connector.

I hope that this is easy to follow, and is helping you make sense of everything.

On the wiring diagram, I have also drawn the wiring for the Headlight switch, the Power On / Ignition switch, the Battery Meter, and the Horn Push / Buzzer.

There are two wires which don't seem to connect anywhere, and these are a Purple from pin 7, and a Grey from pin 8.

There is also a Red multipin connector, which connects to the Head unit Board....



this goes to the Control Unit....



and plugs into the White, 9 pin connector on the right of the picture.

This is a shot of the control Unit, the top side....



and the internals....



But I haven't removed any wires from the inside of this, just from the multiple plugs on it's outside.

And finally the charger....



Which lived permanently in the 'Boot' of the scooter, and connects to a 3 pin plug on the controller.

Keep Busy,
Regards,
Mark.
« Last Edit: 11 August, 2009, 12:44:54 AM by markh15 »
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Re: Pride Scooter Wiring Problem
« Reply #1 on: 13 August, 2009, 05:56:58 AM »
Hi Mark,
Could you please e-mail me the wiring diagram.
Many Thanks
Ted

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Re: Pride Scooter Wiring Problem
« Reply #2 on: 25 April, 2010, 08:47:21 PM »
Mark,
The grub screw in the knob of my speed pot was rusted solid and whilst trying to remove it, I broke the spindle in the pot. I guess it will still work (haven't been able to try it yet as the axle is away being machined) as I can turn it with a screwdriver but ideally I'll need a replacement, in order to relocate it on the dashboard with a knob. Any idea where I can obtain a replacement?
I have found a company just outside Edinburgh so I'll try them this week. I would also like another wig wag pot so I can mount it in a hand controller as an alternative to the foot pedal for young learner drivers.
Regards
Mike 
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Re: Pride Scooter Wiring Problem
« Reply #3 on: 27 April, 2010, 01:16:57 AM »
Hi Mike,

Sorry mate, I haven't a clue is the short answer!

The problem is the range of movement on the Mobility Scooter pots. They only have a 'sweep' about 30 degrees from 'Off' to 'Full on', and are quite vunerable to wear.
Your local Electronics supplier might be able to help, but the ones they generally carry are the ones for TV and Radio applications, and have a larger 'sweep', usually over 180 degrees.

If you have found a supplier then that's good news, otherwise, it's keeping an eye on ebay for some-one breaking a scooter I'm afraid.

You could try 'Technobots' (www.technobots.co.uk), they do Electronic parts for 'robots' (Robot Wars) and might be able to help. Alternatively, 'Maplin Electronics' stores (www.maplin.co.uk) might have something, if it's only a replacement for the broken knob!

Sorry I couldn't be more help.
Good luck with the hunt.
Regards,
Mark.
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Re: Pride Scooter Wiring Problem
« Reply #4 on: 27 April, 2010, 08:11:57 AM »
There's a guy on ebay 7414michael been selling a few pride bits recently. May be worth a try.

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Re: Pride Scooter Wiring Problem
« Reply #5 on: 27 April, 2010, 03:40:52 PM »
Hi Mike
As Mark says the pots only move a small arc, but this is because of the stops on the wigwag mechanism. As far as I understand it, the actual component is a standard potentiometer with full range of movement.
It is critical that you replace it with the exact type, but any electrical component supplier, like Maplin or RS components should have it.
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Re: Pride Scooter Wiring Problem
« Reply #6 on: 11 July, 2010, 05:30:30 PM »
Hi Mark,
I bought new batteries but still the Toylander won't go. Using a multimeter, I think I have found the problem to be in the speed pot as it reads 2500 Ohms regardless of the position of the knob. My head unit is just like yours with 3 black wires from the pot but two of them are actually soldered together (unlike your wiring diagram which shows them seperate but it looks in your photo that two of them are connected together). This must mean that the pot is actually being used as a variable resistor, rather than a potentiometer in it's true sense. I think I'll get a new one and try it. Do you know if you can short it out and connect the two wires together ie so it has no resistance and is effectively on maximum speed? I'm thinking this fault is why it was going so slowly and now not at all.
Regarding the wig wag pot in previous correspondence, I've made a twin thottle pedal arrangement; one forward, one reverse and am happy with that (it just fits in between the brake pedal and body for small feet). I measured the resistance of this pot as well and it changes by only about 200 Ohms in 2400, as Walter says above, just using a small arc of it's full travel.
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