Hello

[Tosh]

New to this lark. I bought a tub from Richard, which he very kindly delivered. Spent the weekend priming and flatting the tub and some time over the next couple of weeks my local woodworking shop will spray it Poppy Red. From there the assembly beckons.

Not at all practical so even the idiot-proof instructions and complete kit will likely fox me. However, the new owner, aged 3, wants it finished last week so......

Wife is insisting we get the trailer too.... and someone in a couple of year will likely want a couple more mph!

[brian]

Hello Tosh and welcome to the home of the bewildered.

Buying a completed Tub, now that's considered cheating on here, you should have had all the hassle we scratch builders have had.

You will be able to tell who are scratch builders if we ever meet up 'cos we are the ones with unnatural grey hair and a permanantly bewildered look.

Seriously, you will have great fun and the three year old will be delighted with the result.

Mine is the red T2 with windscreen wipers and a three year old blonde blue eyed grandson at the wheel.

My unfinneshed as yet build saga is under "My grandpa's got a new project".

Any help you think you may require can be found by simply posting your question on here.

Can I respectfully suggest you keep all you correspondence regarding your build under one  heading of your choice, this helps us to know who's who when replying.

Regards,

Brian.

[Tosh]

Thats brian. Looking around it seems that the true DIYers seem to either outweigh the lazy/inept folk like me and you all have my admiration in buckets. Wife has forbidden it taking too much time! With the laziness comes a slight lack of flexibility and understanding. Therefore, at this stage, I'll be following the letter of the book, rather than branching out and putting in disk brakes, torque converters, windscreen wipers and the like. Let me see if I can get this one up and running first.

I did think about Newark, but we are away that weekend 

[markh15]

Hi Tosh, and Welcome,
If you are looking for a quick build, then I would advise 'Against' taking the little 'un to Newark!!

You will both be so overwhelmed by the choice of colours, motor configurations, accessories, extra details etc, that it will never meet your expectations!!

On a more seriouse note, as my learned friend Brian has said, any questions / problems with the build, just post a thread and the regulars will all try to help / hinder (you choose) with your queery.

As for 'cheating' and buying a ready built tub, it sounds like a good idea to me if time (and ability) are limited. Some of the members would agree with this chain of thought, and say that you have saved yourself a great deal of head-scratching and frustration! (As the grey haired, balding, frustrated amongst us will varify)

Keep Busy,
Regards,
Mark.

[multisync]

Hi Tosh
Sounds like you've made a good start there with the ready built body tub, I think it's a good way to go if you want to make reasonably quick progress. You should see it all come together quickly if you buy the other bits and pieces from Richard at Toylander. As Mark and Brian have said, us old un's have nothing better to do than sit about scratching our heads over the slightest problems, mostly of our own making, because we didn't follow the instructions. But we need to exercise our gray matter somehow! Let us know how you are getting on, and if you have the time, post some pics for us to see, and if you have any queries, just ask, as any one of us will be only too pleased to help.
Best wishes with the build
Walter, (Blue Toylander2 with registration M1 TOY)

[Tosh]

Good couple of weeks so far.....

The tub was primed and flatted twice. We are in the process of having a bunch of wardrobes installed and it occurred to me that the carpenter people have a spray booth they use for finishing. So the tub went to them for spraying poppy red. Two coats of Dulux weathershield satin black on the underside and I was good to go.

So today the front end went on - live axle, steering mech and tested the wheels etc

The back end is also in place - motors mounted and sprockets pinned. With one exception.... the brake hanger. The tub is 405mm underneath. The brackets that affix the brake hanger behind the axle to the side of the tub are about 430mm apart..... So I know how it goes together but I appear to have too big a gap, too small a tub or a need for a spacer.... Checking the templates, the brake hanger is the right spec, the tub is the right spec.... am I missing something damned obvious?

Once the hanger is in place, I can finally fix the wheels with the split pins and we are rolling.... well, apart from the elctrics, finishing, screen and the like....

So far I have learned a lot, realised that building one of these things eats through Bosch drill bits and hacksaw blades....and the engineering behind this (and stripping it down so it can be templated/made etc) really is fantastic....

[markh15]

Hi Tosh,
If all of the measurements are as per the drawings as you say, then the only thing I can suggest is a couple of 1/2" spacers (one either side) to keep the brake bar central.

The tub must be right as it was bought in from Richard, I've just checked the manual, and as you say, the metalwork is 16" and 7/8" (430 mm) wide, so that's OK.

If you look closely at the diagram on page 41 of the manual, in the bottom left corner of the page it shows a M10 bolt passing through the batten and the Rear Inner Wing panel, secured with a nut. Then the brake bar goes on, and is held in place with a 'Nyloc' nut, to allow the brake bar to swing freely.

Simple thing to miss on such comprehensive diagrams, I only noticed it on the second look.

Hope this has helped,
Keep Busy,
Regards,
Mark.

P.S. is it ready yet dad??

[Tosh]

Mark

you're a star, thanks. That worked a treat and is obvious once you realise that with a "regular" spacer, you'd end up with (even more) hardware left over.

Brakes sort of done - have to remove drivers side motor to get the brake return spring bolt in place. Then we have chains to do and the "oily bits" are done. Trim and electrics to go

Any thoughts on seat colour? Car is poppy red but i was thiking of doing the seat base/back in the same black as the underside....

[markh15]

Hi Tosh,
If you study the pictures in the Gallery (sounds like 'Vision On', remember that, or are you too young?), some have gone for the Black interior, some (me included) have gone with the body colour, the same as it would be on a full sized Landie.

The clever clogs amongst us (me again), have even gone to the length of making removable cushions covered in vynil!!

In the end it's up to you (again), whatever you feel is suitable, is OK by us lot!

Like lots of other subjects, it's down to your ability.

Keep Busy,
Regards,
Mark.

[Tosh]

Interior is body colour
Dash is black cubby holes with red top/face
Seats are black.

All the oily bits now done. Wiring and trim to go. And something tells me that progress will be slower than for putting wheels on

This afternoon I learned I cannot drill in a straight line. I learned this while trying to put the split pins in the axles....

[markh15]

Hi Tosh,
That's where a cheap 'Pillar Drill' from Aldi / Netto / Lidl comes in handy, at ?40 they are brilliant for these types of projects, (and other things) and won't break the bank.

Lidl also do a decent set of drills, in sizes from 1 mm upto 10 mm (and all the .5 mm sizes inbetween), in a flip top metal box for less than a tenner. I've used them throughout my project, and haven't blunted one yet!

Keep up the good work,
Regards,
Mark.

P.S. is it nearly finished Dad?

[Tosh]

Today I have had my Dremel grinding pings out of chains, my cordless drill drillling and screwing and my old cable drill drilling (and killing bits)

The trim on the door tops munched very gratefully through Bosch hacksaw blades too....

[multisync]

Hi
Frustrating? Yes! But great fun isn't it....don't you wish you had taken up stamp collecting instead!!
Take it easy
Walter

[Tosh]

Yes Walter it is fun

I am wondering if there's anyone I know who wants to buy and let me build. I don't think i need/can stretch to a second!

[markh15]

Hi Tosh,
I think we could all do with someone to let us spend their money in return for a little of our time!

The other alternative is, if you live close enough to Toylander Central, you could always ask Richard for a job!
I'm sure such a busy millionaire, sorry man, would welcome the help!

Keep Busy,
Regards,
Mark.